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Author Topic: Sunday Times rant by Brenda Power  (Read 6943 times)    
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« Reply #60 on: 10 Jul, 09, 04:11:PM »
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I aggree with you both and Connor was brilliant. It seemed like he hardly got a word in edgeways. Probably exactly what she wants.

Also did anyone else think that babies aren't made from heterosexual unions as such - I mean, I know of at least one example of a gay man giving sperm to a lesbian couple.
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« Reply #61 on: 10 Jul, 09, 04:48:PM »
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Also did anyone else think that babies aren't made from heterosexual unions as such - I mean, I know of at least one example of a gay man giving sperm to a lesbian couple.

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Yeah, my thinking in this case - and in the thousands of similar cases - was that regardless of the fact that conception requires an egg and sperm, the child wouldn't have been conceived at all in any manner had the same sex parents not desired to have children together. So such a child's existence is a direct result of their union. I don't if that's really looking way outside the box and irrelevant to the argument but I just thought it was so  skewed and half-sighted to say that all children are a result of purely heterosexual couplings
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« Reply #62 on: 10 Jul, 09, 05:12:PM »
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I totally aggree. I mean, that's a biological fact. It doesn't make it a social one.
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« Reply #63 on: 12 Jul, 09, 03:36:PM »
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Brenda Power desperately tries to keep herself in the news. Sad bint. (Oh, and lesbians are misogynists, apparently..) http://bit.ly/ZcQXB

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« Reply #64 on: 12 Jul, 09, 03:58:PM »
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Brenda Power desperately tries to keep herself in the news. Sad bint. (Oh, and lesbians are misogynists, apparently..) http://bit.ly/ZcQXB


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grrrrrr the way she kept going on about men in silly dresses and outrageous costumes at pride made my blood boil -never mind the fact that so what if some people dressed up, if she even researched anything about pride she would have observed that 98% of the crowd were just regular gays marching along.

And the misogynistic thing?? What was that all about?!!
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« Reply #65 on: 12 Jul, 09, 10:39:PM »
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Also, did anyone hear Panti on RTE Cosmo last night? I missed it.

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cheer yourselves up while you're there, after listening to Panti's interview,forget Ms Power's existence and enjoy the wonderfulness that is David Norris in the interview below it
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« Reply #66 on: 13 Jul, 09, 02:34:PM »
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Talking about Brenda and her article on Liveline now.

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/
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« Reply #67 on: 13 Jul, 09, 03:31:PM »
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Just caught the very, very end of that, and once again Liveline manages to turn a discussion on one topic into a session for self-loathing gays.

WTF, like?

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« Reply #68 on: 13 Jul, 09, 03:35:PM »
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The "stop speaking on my behalf" guy is a really common viewpoint I think, I've heard exactly the stuff he was saying before. It's always vaguely depressing.
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« Reply #69 on: 13 Jul, 09, 04:44:PM »
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Reading the Sunday Times and listening to Liveline is a sign of self-loathing, gay or not.

All of you- desist.

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« Reply #70 on: 14 Jul, 09, 02:37:PM »
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I am absolutely astonished at how people who have no idea of what they are talking about are being taken to seriously. They have totally missed the point. But Rory is on now. Yay.
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« Reply #71 on: 14 Jul, 09, 02:52:PM »
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Now now

Rory (Panti) is talking on liveline now with some gays who like the bill - interesting
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« Reply #72 on: 14 Jul, 09, 04:13:PM »
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« Reply #73 on: 14 Jul, 09, 05:03:PM »
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This was the one line that made me pause for a moment

No democratic society can afford to indulge groups who seek to punish and silence those who dare disagree with them.

 

The more i read over it the more i realized that it is being used completely out of context.

In her view, she was abused because she spoke an opinion. without actually getting into the semantics of the word opinion an opinion is something that gives a thought - an expression of ones feelings. These are perfectly allowed (even if i disagree with them)

However, her opinion is that a minority group should STILL be treated less favorable than the rest in society. This is her opinion that the LGBT community is disagreeing with.

In a democratic society, we cannot afford to punish those who are different and don't fit in with the so called "normal person"

Her opinion is that the LGBT community shouldn't have their rights because they are lesbian/gay/bi/trans which is a sheer inequality which a democracy fights against - everybody is equal in a democracy (or supposed to be)

I'm not fighting her right to an opinion - i'm disagreeing with it - big difference

Also i am glad that she recognised that since single people are allowed to adopt, her arguments that adoption is for a married heterosexual couple goes right out the window
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« Reply #74 on: 22 Jul, 09, 05:45:PM »
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I read both her articles and couldn't help feeling that she actually got some kind of satisfaction about being ridiculed for her opinions.  The second article more or less stated that.
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