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« on: 05 Jul, 09, 12:07:PM »

I'm outraged by this.... Angry  Her ignorance is gobsmacking

Brenda Power: You can’t trample over the wedding cake and eat it
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article6637267.ece
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« Reply #1 on: 05 Jul, 09, 03:11:PM »

OMG! That fool is also blindly relying on the coverage from The Irish Times - she wasn't even at the Pride march or post-march event. Grrrr! I'm penning my letter to the editor now!

And it was at this point that I had to refrain from throwing my laptop out the window:

Homosexuals insist that their nature is an inherent, essential reality, and not a lifestyle choice.
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But many have unquestionably opted out of traditional behavioural norms and expectations, and, as the whole Gay Pride movement was designed to confirm, they want us all to know how happy they are about that. It’s a bit rich, though, to thumb your nose at traditional rituals and values and then demand that the most traditional of all — marriage — be reinvented and adapted just to suit you.

 

Oh, I'm gonna swing for her:

Panti is wrong on another point — homosexuals are entirely free to marry. They just can’t marry someone of the same sex. None of us can, because, whatever the resulting union might be, marriage it ain’t.

 
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« Reply #2 on: 05 Jul, 09, 03:27:PM »

I LOVE this comment on the article:

Let me get this right. Your argument is don't give gays the same rights as everyone else because some people wore drag in a recent parade? This is like saying we must not allow any Irish people get married or ever have children when some of them dress up as leprechauns on St Patricks day.
Darragh O'Donoghue, Limerick, Ireland

 
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« Reply #3 on: 05 Jul, 09, 04:46:PM »

homosexuals are entirely free to marry. They just can’t marry someone of the same sex.

 


Really?  I didnt know that, thank you breda for pointing that out... stupid ****ing gowl.

Its been a VERY long time since ive had a journalist piss me off THAT much.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 Jul, 09, 04:54:PM »

I am so cross about this, So cross I can't even think of how to complain to the Times without swearing at them. I'm particularly pissed off at the suggestion we all just marry someone of the opposite sex of we want to get married, and then she can look on while we live lives of quiet desperation and unhappiness, and so does the person we marry. C*nt.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 Jul, 09, 05:16:PM »

I know how you feel, Juju! Her argument is rife with flaws but it's so hard to identify each one and articulate the reason why it's not a legitimate point of view because I'm so furious with her, and the paper for publishing such harmful, spiteful drivel!

Ultimately, I do not know how she can put forward the argument that gay people should be content because they already have the right to marry whomever they chose—of the opposite sex, of course—and then later (in the third last paragraph) argue that to remain in a loveless union is harmful for children, and not realise that there is something inherently contradictory in such a point-of-view. Essentially she says: marry who you like  regardless of the fact that you don't love them, but don't stay in a loveless marriage.
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« Reply #6 on: 05 Jul, 09, 07:47:PM »

how singularly ignorant, offensive and F**king stupid!!!!!! *boils*

It is simply unfair to suggest taking a child, presumably conceived by a heterosexual couple, and placing them in an entirely different dynamic and in a family unit that makes them different from the start

 
Presumably? Has she worked out a way for homosexual couples to concieve? Fantastic!!
And what's wrong with different? I thought we were all different, that's what makes us all unique and wonderful and la di da....

I would actually hurt her if she was near enough to me *snorts*

I have emailed her and the Times, miraculously without swearing (at this point I have an angry civil partnership letter as stock)

ugh... *goes out for a walk*
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« Reply #7 on: 05 Jul, 09, 08:45:PM »

It really is fashionable to bash the LGBT community at the moment.

Why don't some people go protest outside the office of whoever publishes the ROI edition of the Sunday Times? Make a scene.
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« Reply #8 on: 06 Jul, 09, 09:01:AM »

I am gobsmacked. Really and truly lost for words, I just don't know where to start on that. I just want to throttle the ignorance out of her
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We're adults. When did that happen, and how do we make it stop?
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« Reply #9 on: 06 Jul, 09, 10:36:AM »

 Angry

I don't even know where to start with this...
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« Reply #10 on: 06 Jul, 09, 10:38:AM »


Is there a point arguing with this? Again I have respect for the people in the LGBT community who can hold their nerve and just argue this without reacting emotionally. I can't believe she was allowed write it but again and again their arguments sound weak.
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« Reply #11 on: 06 Jul, 09, 11:33:AM »

I'm still seething with rage..
I feel so personally affronted by her stupidity I'm tempted to write a scathing personal retort exposing her outrageous ignorance and prejudice... I will write this evening, and try and be clear and impersonal- though I still feel that visceral response you get when you witness or experience bullying
 

get-up and carry-on

 
How dare she offer commentary on a Parade she wasn't even at....?

outwardly unconventional home

 
How f***king dare she judge us as parents?

their prospects for a rounded self-image, the likelihood of social acceptance in their crucial formative years.

 

As many of you know know, my daughter has marched with or in the vicinity of the spuds for the last three years- has had wonderful, joyful Prides- rain or shine, and has relished the excitement, warmth and possibiliites of openess and tolerance in the streets of Dublin in 'her formative years'... the only real threat to her 'self image' as a teenager in a lesbian family is the ugly prejudice of the Brenda Powers of this world...
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« Reply #12 on: 06 Jul, 09, 12:23:PM »

You know, if i was there, I really would be attemping some form of protest at the times offices
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« Reply #13 on: 06 Jul, 09, 12:33:PM »

(This i left on Panti's blog, cos i am so angry at that dope, Brenda Power)

ANITA BRYANT IS ALIVE AND WELL AND WRITTING FOR THE SUNDAY TIMES!!!

I am sick and angry and what she wrote. Is it any wonder they took her show off NEWSTALK fm. She is the most ill informed, i use the word very lightly, reporter. She tends to go off on rants on anything from single mothers to old age pensioners with the littleist of information. The holes in her arguments are huge. It makes me very angry to see the lies she had printed this sunday. She talks of 'role models, a rounded self image and social excepance in their fromitive years' This is something i would have loved growing up but unfortunatly i got staright parents and grew up around straight peers so that was someting i would never have until i became an adult and had to work through with the help of councling to unravel the lifetime of brainwashing, bulling and abuse i suffered at the hands of straights to find acceptance within the gay and straight world and most inportantly myself. Her kind of old fashioned attitude reminds me of a time of curtain twitching, women who wore head scarfs, relouis fear and where child molesters were abundant in socity. An ignorant time, an ignorant people. Igonrant to the the facts. Happly awiting the end of the world with glee. People who are fearfull of anyting outside their own neighbourhood. Articles like this lay the groundwork for homophobia in the press, in government, on the streets and in the home. And she and they are getting away with it!
To quote
"95% of child molestations are hetrosexuals and usually family"
"All child abandonments are hetrosexuals"
"98% of rapes are commited by hetrosexuals"
"30% of hetrosexual marriges contain domestic violence"
Suffer little children.
Shame on you Brenda Power your ingnorant barnyard upbringing betrays you when you set out your standards and try to impose them on Panti or any of us who are gay.
Let me say this, and i quote:
yours are "the standards of Rapists, Wife beaters, Child abusers, the people who ordered the bomb to be built, the people who ordered it to be droped, the people who pulled the trigger, the people who built the gas chambers, the people who built the concentration camps, the jew baiters, the corporate thiefs and the hitlers, the people who carried out murder in the name of jesus christ and glorify themself in it"Some standards Brenda "how much more blood do you want, how many more lives."
Wake up brothers and sisters evil is among us. Bringing penny for a walk maybe good to clear your head but dont just ignor it, fight the homophobia and crap that she spouts.

Quotes are from Harvey Milks speechs way back in the olden times,but how they speak today.
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« Reply #14 on: 06 Jul, 09, 01:44:PM »


I don't think 'criminalising' heterosexuals is the way to go to prove our point you know. You may want to steer away from that jobyred.
Bad people are gay and striaght. We're equals and we're looking for equality.


I'm really glad I'm not reacting with rage at this. I'm angry but I feel in control of it. I've heard this before and it makes me more upset than anything that there are people out there who share Brenda's view. Our anger will not phase her. We need to just clearly and calmly state why she's totally and utterly wrong in the massive assumptions and sweeping statements she makes about LGBT people.

A protest is a really good idea. Maybe we should email Noise?

Edit: actually I fear giving this more publicity then it deserves. what if it just gives her more attention and leverage to make her view heard?
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